Two years later in December, 2009 the problem occurred again, this time on my way to work on an extremely cold winter morning. After waiting for a while 20-30 minutes or s it will turn over - especially in cold weather - had the same problem last year and was sold a new starter by the dealership. Different states have different smog laws so check before you swap. If you do not use the same stock engine you will have smog issues. I am not comfortable with paying a mechanic to disengage the system or doing this myself and feel that Saturn should fix the problem.
So I am left stranded in sub zero temperatures. If Saturn supposedly knew about this problem they could have at least notified their owners and offered some sort of retribution or reconciliation for costs. I found a lot of complaints by consumers with the same issue by searching google. This is clearly a common problem that occurs for Ion owners in cold weather. The failure mileage was unknown. You will need to remove the trim panel.
Have had the problem for past two years but never took it to the dealer for that but did have it there for other service and was never advised of the issue. I know gm and Saturn know of this problem also. Don't let a faulty starter leave you stranded. The vehicle was not diagnosed no repaired. A car that fails to turn off is an enormous safety issue. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed that the starter needed to be replaced. All the dash lights are illuminated.
If you've noticed that waiting a few minutes seems to help, that's the clincher. The instances when this occur all seem to be when the car has been outside and not running for at least 2 hours in temperatures in the 20 degrees fahrenheit range or colder. I may have taken actions sooner, but I wasn't aware there were many more Saturn Ion drivers with the same issues I had. I have been late numerous times to work and have had my car towed twice to a mechanic who ultimately cost me hundreds of dollars on parts that had nothing to do with this problem. It will generally start after waiting about 15 minutes to try again.
I have replaced the starter and two months ago I bought a new battery. When the lubricant freezes, the passlock anti theft alarm does not get it's electrical signal so it activates and prohibits fuel from being used so the car does not start. I am very hopeful that my efforts in making this complaint will result in a recall for the cause for this problem. Apparently, I'm one of 100's that has had this problem! Not a problem if you have a heated garage, or even a garage period, or live somewhere warm. But god forbid you live in an area where there is cold weather.
I have done internet research and found hundreds of others with the same problem. Bought it used 5 months ago. The battery is well within the normal limits. Forgetting the unpleasantness of being stranded in 10 minute increments also, the car fails to start several times in a row, as long as 40 minutes before this is a safety issue that should be dealt with accordingly. Last month every time never failed you get in vehicle turn key on. In cold weather the dielectric lubrication freezes and interferes with the security system - making the vehicle unable to start.
Our units are remanufactured to the highest standards for unrivalled cranking ability. What if you're trying to flee an emergency situation stalker, landslide, fire, flood, etc. This has happened so many times in the winter that I finally got sick of it and parked the Saturn and drove a different vehicle. Saturn claimed it was too cold outside for my car to start, and told me to wait a bit before bringing it in. The cold start triggers an approximate 10 minute wait time before the system is reset and the car will not turn over until after that period. They really weren't sure what was wrong they admitted, but it seems to work now. The contact stated that the key was difficult to remove from the ignition switch.
It is a recurring problem when the weather is cold. Bad advertising for the company too. However, it did not start yesterday in 30 degree weather. Sometimes the car would start normally and others not at all. I have checked several sites and this appears to be a big problem that should be address. No self respecting thief would steal a Saturn in the first place. Saturn dealer was very nice about the whole thing.
All lights come on but engine will not. Apparently there are many other people who have the same problem but there has been no recall. The car would work for a few weeks, then the same issue arises again. Please see that a recall takes place. Sometimes I would wait a couple minutes and it would turn over, sometimes I would wait over 10 minutes for it to turn over as well. Had remote starter removed, as suggested by service center ; now have no running lights or keyless entry. The vehicle was taken back to the dealer and the contact was responsible for the repair expense.
I have had the battery checked and there was nothing wrong with it but I am going to get the starter checked today. They said my floormats were too thick and not genuine Saturn parts and caused it not to start no kidding, they said this. This problem occurs at random times, even on warm days. I bought a new battery last winter. Then I tried starting my car when I got off work still no start. They also had to reprogram the bcm.